#HeforShe campaign reply – I still refuse to sign

Apologies to the tumbleweeds for not posting anything for six months

anyhoo

Rather remiss of me not to mention in my HeForShe pieces that I had emailed the campaign to convey my concerns about their pledge wording in the light of Watson’s speech.

I’m not the quickest even with mspaint, so I’m going to just copypaste the contents of the emails into the article here, then comment on them.  Screengrabs of the emails are available (with identifying info blanked out) upon request. 🙂

My initial email to HeForShe, sent 23rd Sept 2014:

Hello,

I appreciate you may have received many inquiries of this sort already, but your campaign was brought to my attention following Emma Watson’s publicised speech to the UN on its behalf.

I didn’t feel I could sign the pledge she was promoting, for the simple reason that while she correctly identified both men and women as being in need of gender equality and having gendered issues affecting them both, your pledge is currently gendered – where it calls on men to help women.

This is quite a common approach among those seeking gender equality today – but it is not egalitarian.  Such a pledge should be gender neutral – or, if it is acceptable to request that men help women resolve issues that affect them, it should surely be acceptable to request that women help men resolves issues that affect them.

Is an alteration of the wording of the pledge possible?  Please find a suggestion linked below:
https://medium.com/@garethrhughes/a-better-commitment-990fe7f9e316

Alternatively, would an accompanying She for He campaign be a future possibility?

Regards,

Martin

HeForShe team’s response, delivered 20th Feb 2015:

Dear Martin,

Thank you for your message of support, and I understand your concerns. Since we are UN Women, this campaign aims to eradicate discrimination and violence against women and girls. However, as the campaign and movement progresses, it will naturally address the many significant aspects of gender inequality. This points to the significance of every single individuals involvement in the campaign as we recognise that gender inequality is unequivocally about both genders, and equally about those who do not identify as male or female too.

I hope that you will consider joining this campaign to help end gender inequalities for ALL people.

For your interest, I am listing some ways in which you can further great support:

– You can inspire others by using the action toolkit http://www.heforshe.org/action-kit/, and use this link: http://bit.ly/1vPyeEH for posters and logos of the campaign.

 

– Your stories are very important to us and we would love to hear about all of the inspiring men and boys out there who are embracing #HeForShe so please, write to us!

– Through social media you can really boost the message of the campaign! Take lots of pictures and videos of the boys and men who sign up and send them to us so we can blast our social media pages with your motivating images.

– You can do this too by using the # whenever you post something HeForShe related and by filling out the HeForShe reporting tool so we can credit your great efforts towards our global goal.

You can help spread the message by purchasing our HeForShe T-Shirts and Pins from Amazon.

Thank you again for your support; your part in this movement is instrumental to our success! Please make sure to keep in touch and tell us of your actions.

Warmest wishes,

Ella

---

So six months on, where do I stand with this campaign?

I’ll try and keep my thoughts even-handed.  In retrospect, I feel my email was far too preachy and I should have made more of a focus on the apparent discontinuity between what Watson was saying the campaign would do and what the campaign was actually seeking to achieve.

The response from the HeForShe people, while somewhat underwhelming, has admirable candour in response to a rather terse email I sent them, and it’s good that they took the time to reply to one email out of the many thousands an organisation of that scope must doubtless receive.

However, while written in a positive spirit and apparently with good intentions, I can’t say I’m particularly reassured by this response.

However, as the campaign and movement progresses, it will naturally address the many significant aspects of gender inequality.

I appreciate I’m going by my personal experience here, but I nonetheless feel it’s common in this debate for many feminists to assume that greater equality for women necessarily (or “naturally”, in this case) entails greater equality for men.  In theory, perhaps – but in practice, I’ve had to actively point out to many a feminist precisely why and how men suffer as a result of their gender roles.  If we are going by the logic that the members of a particular social group know best how to solve the problems that beset them, how is a group predominantly populated by women going to have much impact on men’s issues?

This is before we get into the frequent hostility people who speak up for men and men’s issues face, often from feminists.  In a couple of spats I had with friends and online commenters about this campaign, I had to repeatedly point out that Watson said that this campaign would help men and their issues too.  Actually pressing for specifics on how this campaign would do so – not least when their own campaign pledge and strategy material make little suggestion of how men would be helped by this campaign and are focused almost entirely on how women can be uplifted – is often met with an accusation of trying to make it all about men instead.

As Ally Fogg pointed out in his (much more timely) followup piece, When is it acceptable to ask “But what about teh menz”? it isn’t derailing/whataboutthemenz/making it all about men to point out that it was Watson who made the suggestion that HeForShe could help men in the first place.  Pointing out the inconsistency between what Watson said and what the campaign actually involves is none of those things.

When I heard Emma Watson’s speech last weekend, I was given the impression that what we were being offered, finally, was that space. What she was describing, as I heard it, was the inseparability of men’s and women’s gender issues. My objection to the HeForShe campaign pledge was that after that the small print derogated wildly from the sales pitch.

 

 

My critics were correct. I was quite consciously saying ‘But what about the men?’

 

 

I maintain that under these specific circumstances, that was justified. I think if someone launches a campaign which proudly proclaims that it is (in large part) about the men, in which most of the examples offered of gendered injustice and harmful consequences relate to men, which generated global headlines that focused on the benefits to men, then it transpires that the campaign explicitly excludes a pledge to take action to address those issues, “But what about the men?” is a perfectly legitimate response.

---

Returning to the email:

I hope that you will consider joining this campaign to help end gender inequalities for ALL people.

That’s…not actually what this campaign is about though.  From your own Action Kit, the overall goal it is to be used to implement is stated as follows:

The overall goal of the campaign is to spread awareness and spark action on the responsibility that men and boys have in eliminating all forms of discrimination against women and violence against women and girls.

Indeed the email itself claims this as well.  Now, I agree that solving issues facing women as a result of their gender roles and expectations is part of moving towards gender equality, but this campaign is the only sort of its kind you seem to see – where men are demanded to “step up” to help solve women’s issues.  Watson’s speech hinted at a more mutual dynamic of people of all genders helping all genders, but the campaign she was talking about provided but more of the same.

The rest of the email is little more than a pitch to encourage me to sign up to their campaign and to post stories – only if they’re about embracing #HeForShe, of course.

Six months on, my answer to this campaign is still a resolute no.

Something I dislike much more than the He for She campaign

When douchebags threaten to leak more nudes of a film star suspiciously soon after said film star has publicised an impassioned feminist speech.

I’ve seen the idea floating around that this could well be a hoax – and this is 4chan we’re talking about, so that’s definitely not impossible –  but that wouldn’t make a huge amount of difference to the situation either way.

It will still cause a huge amount of stress for Emma Watson for having been targeted in this way – she presumably has some idea whether or not she might be at risk of a leak of intimate photos.

In addition however, the He for She campaign itself has now been linked to this threat, and if the initial Fappening leaks are any indication, coverage of any potential leak could well dwarf the coverage of the He for She campaign.

Which is a shame – while the campaign is focused on pledging support for women and girls, Watson’s speech did broach the topic of men’s gender issues as well.  As some people have pointed out, the pledge is very easily fixed.This could be a good opportunity to get men’s issues discussed further at the UN after Watson’s initial mention, but this threat, whether toothless or not, runs the risk of derailing it.

He for she – and she for he?

So as a nice, simple starter for my misadventures into blogging on gender issues, I thought I’d try and get the attention of a Hollywood film star (in a completely non-dodgy way).  No biggie.

In response to http://www.heforshe.org/EmmaWatsonSpeech.pdf

Re: Your invitation

Dear Ms. Watson,

Many thanks for your formal invitation to sign the He For She pledge.  However, I regret to inform you that I must decline.

I find myself quite disappointed to do so, actually – I was pleasantly surprised to note that in your speech, you acknowledge that men faced gender issues of their own as well.  Thank you from the bottom of my heart for doing so in the UN.  But I think you actually aren’t the right person for this campaign.

Please hear me out – it’s not because you’re the Harry Potter girl.  It’s because from what I can tell, the He for She initiative isn’t actually focusing on those gender issues that affect men that you were so thoughtful to mention.  It is presenting itself as a movement to get men to help with women’s issues.  The pledge you invited us to sign reads as follows:

Gender equality is not only a women’s issue, it is a human rights issue that requires my participation. I commit to take action against all forms of violence and discrimination faced by women and girls.

Why, if both genders are facing gender issues and are in need of gender equality (as you correctly pointed out) is this campaign doing what so many other gender equality campaigns have done – and that’s to focus only on the issues affecting women?  Violence and discrimination affects boys and men also – often in many of the same ways that girls and women are affected.  (By way of examples, I refer you to the genital mutilation of men, the forced marriage of boys, and the rape of men in warzones).

Sadly, this is all too common an approach, with men being appealed to as men to help solve women’s problems, often with group responsibilty being imposed on them in a way that is not considered acceptable when done to other groups.  Often this is done by the very same people who claim to be seeking equality.  (Since you wondered, while I acknowledge that not all feminists behave this way, it is my experiences with this sort of behaviour among feminists that have made me disclined to identify as one).

(Taken from The Guardian’s Comment is Free section)

I don’t think you’re the right person for He for She for the simple reason that you are much more fair-minded and egalitarian than its campaign is.  I could be wrong, of course.  You do not have my pledge – however, you do have my attention.  As UN ambassador for Women, you might well be the one who can make this campaign as egalitarian as your speech.

If you are able to do so, then you will have my pledge as well.

Wishing you every success and happiness,

Martin